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Randall wins - but is he selfish?

RealityTVFan + December 16th, 2005 + 343 replies

Last nights finale of the Apprentice sure has stirred a lot of debate. After both tasks ended somewhat successfully, although both had problems, Randall and Rebecca came to the live boardroom for the final decision by Mr. Trump.

Both competitors argued quite vehemently for their cause. In fact, at one point it looked as if they would both spit they were so worked up. I found it to be over the top and almost unpleasant to watch these two professional work themselves up into a frenzy. At one point it seemed that Trump had had enough when he told Randall, “Ok, that is enough”.

With the exception of Toral, all the former candidates seemed to support Randall – ok, I stand corrected on my previous comments about Toral and Rebecca!

Many people had the feeling that Trump would hire both of them, and when they each choose separate tasks, it really appeared to be heading that way. In the final moments however, Trump told Randall, “Your hired!” After a few minutes of celebration, Trump brought Randall back and asked him if he should hire Rebecca as well, which I am sure, was planned out from the beginning.

At this point Randall had the chance to share the spotlight, get Trump two quality apprentices and show what he thought of Rebecca.

Did he do the right thing? Was he greedy? Is this guy’s opinion, yes. Why not hire Rebecca to? What did he have to lose? If he is that insecure about being the only one, maybe he is not the star everyone thinks he is. Actions speak louder than words and last night, Randall’s words at the end left a negative impression and showed that he is selfish.

Yes, Trump could have been more decisive on his own…..maybe he was testing Randall early.

Comments are coming in thick and fast from this unique situation. This is a first for the Apprentice and I am sure the debate will rage on for days. Here are some early comments from people:

Carol says: “Randall disappointed me in the finale. What a classless person. Both candidates were good and Trump was prepared to hire them both. But Randall showed that he was greedy.”

Moon says: “Randall wanted all the glory for himself and instead of showing himself to be a magnanimous person and telling Trump to hire her, he strongly shot down the idea.”

And more from Molly: “I agree with Carol and Moon. Randall showed his true colors tonight. What a disappointment. He’ll always be the selfish insecure winner. Low class and self-centered”

But Peg says: “To all of the angry haters out there commenting that Randal is the wrong man for the job, and have the nerve to say he has no class, just because he didn’t want to share his limelight… let’s not forget, he clearly earned his win”

And more from mzzzrich: “Trump finally hires someone other than a white male and he’s expected to share the limelight, I think not.”

What do you think?

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343 Comments

  1. Lynn replied:

    Hello America,
    When a fine, outstanding and such a classy candidate as Randal, has deservedly won with *flying colors*, ‘The Apprentice Contest’, you want him to take the *decision* to *co-hire* another candidate who was not chosen by the Trump organization *owner*.
    Unable to accept his superb victory, you’re trying to spoil it and badmouth it with false statements.
    You know pretty well, America, as the rest of the world knows about your history, that if Rebeca was chosen, you would not have *thought* for one SECOND that she should share her position with “poor Randal”…
    Come on, America, for once, let the PHD SCHOLAR, the CLASSY hunk, the smart and most brilliant apprentice of all TIMES, savour his sole victory ALONE!!

    December 16th, 2005 at 12:41 pm (permalink)

  2. RealityTVFan replied:

    Ok, fine. What I don’t understand is how it detracts from him if she is hired to…is he that insecure? It is not about bad mouthing…it is about being decent to other people. This BS about savoring his victory alone is pretty sad, he must be pretty desperate for recogntion if that is so important to him. Recognition comes from what he had done to date, hard work and respect…not from being petty and selfish at the end.

    December 16th, 2005 at 1:09 pm (permalink)

  3. Lynn replied:

    Poor America….
    Nothing anyone says now about this fine man, Randal, will cast a shadow ON his brilliant play, his outstanding 13-week ‘Apprentice’ performance and the way he is admired by his peers. NOTHING.
    Please accept his plain victory as part of the RULES of the ‘Apprentice’ Game.
    I know it’s hard for some to accept. That’s why the silly idea of *adjusting* the rules at the very LAST moment. Do not change them now that just because the plain WINNER is not your PREFERRED color. :0)))))

    December 16th, 2005 at 1:38 pm (permalink)

  4. RealityTVFan replied:

    Oh please you jerk, don’t bring color into this. That is offensive to me….how do you know what ‘color’ I or any other person writing on this is….??? That has nothing to do with it…give me a break.

    December 16th, 2005 at 1:45 pm (permalink)

  5. insider replied:

    Randal was such a selfish person, my respect for Randal has gone down the drain. After all we knew he was a star since the very begining and now he turn into a major jerk. I mean Rebecca worked just as hard as he did, I’m guessing the reason why he didn’t share it was because he felt that one day Rebecca would overshawdow her.

    December 16th, 2005 at 1:50 pm (permalink)

  6. Lynn replied:

    He IS a star. Will always be. Look at him, Look at his face, his perfect shiny teeth, his height, his grace, his PHD stellar education, his good manners, his distinguished performance, etc.
    Oh what about his fine taste. Has anyone seen this man walk. O Lord, the only way to bring such a star down is precisely to disparage him now after his stellar victory.
    I am glad that in the end, the attempted foul play did not pass. The show is titled “The Apprentice”, It was meant for one SINGLE winner. But as in the past history, America has a way to change the rules of the game or invent some new ones, just because….
    If I were him, I wouldn’t share my rightful victory with no lesser starlet. :0)
    Way to go, MIT PHD Scholar. Very impressive track record. Wow!

    December 16th, 2005 at 1:57 pm (permalink)

  7. Damien Outlaw replied:

    Yeah….you guys amaze me.

    Rebecca is the weakest final two canidate of any season and finnaly a Minority is the winner and he’s asked to share his title???????

    Did Trump ask Bill, Kelly or Kendra if they should want to share their title?????

    I have even more respect for Randall for doing what he did.

    December 16th, 2005 at 1:57 pm (permalink)

  8. Bob replied:

    In response to Lynn, I guess that we shouldn’t be surprised that the race card had to be played but try to remember that the last apprentice chosen was not a white male but a female. I also can guarantee you that if Rebecca would have won she would have welcomed Randal with open arms. What this means is that Rebecca was genuine when she complimented Randal but he turned out to be evidently insecure.

    December 16th, 2005 at 1:58 pm (permalink)

  9. Randalfan replied:

    Randal just made another sound business decision/career move by saying there should just be 1 apprentice. It’s true. If this is about getting all you can from being Donald Trumps apprentice why should you tell him to hire 2 of you when you finally win it? Just like the whole show, is it about being a ‘nice guy’ or making solid business decisions?
    maybe he could have found a nicer/more tactful way to say it, but he made the right call.

    December 16th, 2005 at 1:59 pm (permalink)

  10. RealityTVFan replied:

    Explain to me how it is a sound business decision? If she is in New Jersey and Randall is in Atlantic City what is the problem? Someone will run the New Jersey project….is he that threatened by her? I don’t get it…..how would it matter if they both worked for him? They are both winners no matter what and Randall’s “star” isn’t diminished if they both get a job…

    December 16th, 2005 at 2:03 pm (permalink)

  11. Hank replied:

    Randal(shouldn’t that be spelled Randall?) showed what an a–hole he is by that one act.

    December 16th, 2005 at 2:04 pm (permalink)

  12. Marv replied:

    Trump should have picked Rebecca first and then he would have been able to hire both of them because she wouldn’t have been so petty and disloyal as Randall. He gained nothing by shooting her down. That was a totally pathetic move and he would have lost nothing by recommending Trump hire her. I hope people he does business with in the future were watching last night, his behavior might want to make them think twice.
    Total lack of class….

    December 16th, 2005 at 2:08 pm (permalink)

  13. Lynn replied:

    Yes he did, Randalfan. I commend you on your sound and impartial judgment.
    On a personal note, allow me to speculate as everyone else.
    No, had Rebecca won, She TOO would NOT have included Randal in her *title*…. That’s the RIGHT *business* decision.
    Happy holidays. :o )))))))))))))

    December 16th, 2005 at 2:08 pm (permalink)

  14. Lynn replied:

    Wow,
    The man exsudes *style*, *class* and *refinement*. No matter where I watch the show, here in the States, in Europe, or Latin America. He was everyone´s favorite. He’ll continue to be the talk of the town. Of course, it is evident to every one else how classy, refined Randal is.
    What a gentleman! WOW!
    Well done, Randal! Bien joué, Randal ! ¡Muy bien hecho, Randal! ¡Felicidades!
    The whole world loves you and agrees with your choice, as you are entitled to.

    December 16th, 2005 at 2:14 pm (permalink)

  15. KReedy replied:

    As an avid fan of the show from the start, each year I see and respect Mr Trump’s choices, he sees something that is missed by the public and he clearly shows to be someone with a great vision into the future. I felt both were equally good. Both had bad times but for Randal to mention on the Today show that him not allowing the chance for Rebecca was like awarding a medal to someone who didnt win or finished after him in the olympics.. Not only did that comment make no sense in the fact she didnt finish after him but it showed further his lack of respect or intelligence. One can have all the degrees in the world, but sometimes it takes more than that to be a human being. If 2 winners finished first at the SAME time both should get a gold medal. He is saying she finished after him and that isnt even the truth. I still remember his mistake on the poster and putting the wrong call letters down for the radio station. I would say at this point he showed his true colors as did Alla. I guess there are still people in this world making their millions at the sake of other people blood. And on a final note, Mr. Trump has made this year a differant year doing things that were a first, firing 4 people at one time with good reason and seeing things with people either good or bad that the public may have missed and knowing what to do. I felt let down by him also last night by not letting his own thoughts take charge like he has so many other times and then letting Randal decide. That would have been a great ending to this year as a show that anything could happen. And give the next season of people to know that they need to work hard cause anything could change at any given point. At this point, My thoughts are Marcus would have been a better choice then Randal.

    December 16th, 2005 at 2:18 pm (permalink)

  16. Randalfan replied:

    I don’t know if it would have diminished Randal (Randall?) or not - to me that’s not the point. I think he had every right to give the opinion he did, since he won fair and square, and I don’t see why anyone else thinks suddenly they have the right to judge him and declare him an @#$$ just because they don’t his opinion. Randall didn’t make a decision - he gave his opinion.

    Trump asked him his opinion. He gave it. Trump chose not to hire her in the end. Just because you don’t like his opinion you can’t suddenly decide he’s a giant jerk. He earned the right to be asked his opinion by Trump and he gave it.

    if you won the 100 mtr dash in the Olympics would you offer to share the gold medal with someone else just because they ran almost as fast as you?

    The guy earned the right to say what he said and that’s that.

    December 16th, 2005 at 2:22 pm (permalink)

  17. RealityTVFan replied:

    WELL SAID!!!!! You have hit the nail on the head, KReedy. And, for all you supporting Randal, can anyone still explain to me why it is such a bad thing if they both are winners? Randal turned out to be a poor sport…period.

    P.S. Lynn,have you been hitting the holiday eggnog already?

    December 16th, 2005 at 2:23 pm (permalink)

  18. Jazzmister replied:

    What a tacky situation for Trump to put his winner in! This was a tournament-style competiton with the winner-take-all. If Trump wanted to hire her or anyone else, he could have done so after this show was over and Randal got his props. But not as “The Apprentice.” Does anyone ask the Spurs basketball team if they want to have their final losing opponent have championship rings and trophies too?!

    December 16th, 2005 at 2:23 pm (permalink)

  19. Sue replied:

    I think Trump should offer Rebecca a job today. She has it all, Class, Loyality, and a diecent human being. Rebecca is more mature than her age. She would make a “GREAT, Super” employee for the Trump Origanation!

    December 16th, 2005 at 2:23 pm (permalink)

  20. Lynn replied:

    Attention, there seems to be a
    The last assignment was a fund-raising one. Randal’s team raised $11,000.
    Rebeca’s: 0. On that fact alone, she would not have been worthy to be a ‘winner’ since she failed in the task given.
    Right? Or does someone want to change the Rule of ‘The Apprentice’ Game again?

    December 16th, 2005 at 2:24 pm (permalink)

  21. Doug replied:

    I, like many others, think that Randal had nothing to loose by graciously sharing the limelight with Rebecca. However, the real shame of all this was Trump putting Randal in that position, with a split second to react in front of millions of people when he was already on such an emotional high. My guess is that if Trump had made the decision to hire both right then and there, Randal would have been most gracious and this would be a non-issue.

    December 16th, 2005 at 2:25 pm (permalink)

  22. Randalfan replied:

    don’t you think that if Trump felt the same way as you guys he would have gone ahead and hired her anyway? It was his choice…Like you say, actions speak louder than words…

    he chose to hire Randal. Then he chose not to go ahead and hire Rebecca.

    December 16th, 2005 at 2:27 pm (permalink)

  23. Laura replied:

    I can understand Randall wanting to be the sole apprentice, but I feel he could have handled the situation a little better. Instead of being sarcastic and making his “apprenti” comment, he could have said something more to the effect of “I believe that the Apprentice should have only one winner, but Rebecca would be an assest to any company”. At least that way he wouldn’t have come across as such an unloyal jerk.

    December 16th, 2005 at 2:31 pm (permalink)

  24. Lynn replied:

    Randalfan,
    You´re the best blog participant I have ever read. Your comments are so well reasoned!
    You´re indeed right, if Randal did something wrong, Mr. Trump would have been the first to say it. Right.
    Yes, he DID win FAIR and SQUARE. Can we now leave him savour his victory without trying to demonize him.
    That’s not fair, America.

    December 16th, 2005 at 2:31 pm (permalink)

  25. RealityTVFan replied:

    Ahh, but he said he probably could have been talked into it, I think he was testing Randall to see how he reacted. The debate can continue and since everyone else is speculating, I bet that Trump didn’t like the way he reacted……

    December 16th, 2005 at 2:32 pm (permalink)

  26. Derrick replied:

    Here’s what pisses me off about this whole situation. All those that say Randall is selfish, blah blah blah…Trump bears a lot of responsibilty for the way this all ended. If he wanted to hire Rebecca also, he should’ve done it. Why the need to put Randall in that position? Because he automatically assumed Randall would say ‘yes’? That’s a bad assumption on Trump’s part.

    Also, I was so sick of hearing how poor Rebecca broke her ankle. nary am mention was made of Randall losing his grandmother during the first task. He had a lot weighing on his mind, and he came through it all. But that got buried under all of the sympathy for poor Rebecca.

    For those that disagree with playing the race card…African Americans haven’t been portrayed in a nice light since Kwame in season 1. From Omarosa, to Stacie J…now with his actions, everyone is painting Randall as a selfish individual. Once again, I blame Trump for putting him in that position in the first place.

    Finally…I believe Trump asked if Randall was tough enough to work in New York. Well, I think we have our answer. It takes some stones to do what he did, on national television, knowing he’d probably take a lot of heat for his actions. I think it would’ve been a mistake to have two winners in this. That does a disservice to other second place finishers of past seasons, most notably Kwame from season 1 and Jen from season 2. There are no two winners in Survivor, American Idol, Amazing Race, etc. There shouldn’t be on on The Apprentice as well.

    December 16th, 2005 at 2:34 pm (permalink)

  27. Tanis replied:

    I don’t understand why so many think it’s acceptable to be selfish. We had Cindy on Survivor missing the opportunity to provide new cars for four people and now Randal shows himself to be utterly self-absorbed by refusing to acknowledge a truly deserving person and provide her with an incredible “gift”. Don’t people know you never lose when you give? Randal wouldn’t be giving up anything and the goodwill and respect he would have gained by agreeing to Rebecca’s hiring would be immeasurable. He already had earned considerable international respect. He missed the opportunity to cement his reputation. Instead, many are rethinking their original good opinion. I’ll bet Donald Trump is one of them

    December 16th, 2005 at 2:38 pm (permalink)

  28. RealityTVFan replied:

    Ok, Derrick, you are the first one that has made some sense about why it should be just him. and you are right about the ankle thing, that pissed me off to.

    December 16th, 2005 at 2:39 pm (permalink)

  29. RealityTVFan replied:

    But, Tanis….you make even more sense. That is the bottom line.

    WHY DOES IT MATTER IF THEY BOTH WIN??????????????????

    December 16th, 2005 at 2:40 pm (permalink)

  30. Jenna replied:

    I think it shows how immature Randall is in a business sense. If you are working in a company, you want what’s best for it…you want your company to hire the best people. Before last night I was going to be pleased with whichever candidate won because they are both great. Now, not so much. But I am not too concerned. Rebecca will more than likely get an even better job offer.

    December 16th, 2005 at 2:40 pm (permalink)

  31. Susan replied:

    Randall was acting like a dog in the manger. In this season it seemed to me that Trump would have a hard time choosing between the two finalists, and indeed I thought that he should hire them both. When Trump gave indications that his thoughts were going in that direction, I gained some respect for him. And I think the reason why Trump talked about how this is serious business for him and not just a tv show was a signal he was giving both final candidates. Yet Randall treated it as a competition. I think he is feeling insecure and threatened by a woman a decade younger than him who is nonetheless as accomplished. This is not the Olympics after all. It’s a business organization. A smart business would hire good people. Since Randall and Rebecca have worked very well in the past, you would think that he would welcome another co-worker with whom he works well. A business isn’t dependent on a single “star.” You need a team. I think Trump recognized both Randall and Rebecca as good additions to his team, and therefore he was thinking of hiring them both. After all good workers are hard to find. I simply lost all respect for Randall when he answered the way he did. I would have felt the same about Rebecca if she did the same thing. I do not, however, know how she would have responded if she were in Randall’s place. Perhaps the whole “game” aspect of the show drives people to take these absurdly extreme positions about who makes the best apprentice. Also, despite his five degrees from eminent institutions of higher learning, Randall still doesn’t know the plural form of the word apprentice. It’s not “apprenti” (what is that? fake Latin?). It’s “apprentices.”

    December 16th, 2005 at 2:40 pm (permalink)

  32. Derrick replied:

    Question…would you all be so pissed if Trump hadn’t asked Randall and still decided not to hire Rebecca? This was a 13 week job interview…and it was a GAME! I know I never paly a game expecting to tie. I play to win. And besides that, no one here was in the position Randall was in. That was a tense board room. Emotions ran high. He’d just finished his case about being hired. He was in attack mode. Adrenaline was flowing. Take that into consideration. Once again…lay off Randall and place your blame squarely where it should be placed…on Donald Trump.

    December 16th, 2005 at 2:45 pm (permalink)

  33. Lynn replied:

    I have an idea Susan. Since you find Rebeca “as accomplished” as Randal, and since you have found his grammar knowledge to be flawwed, why don’t you call Mr. Trump and ask him to revoke his decision and hire your favorite Rebecca, instead?

    December 16th, 2005 at 2:47 pm (permalink)

  34. Janese replied:

    I completely and totally disagree with you on how this season of Apprentice should have ended up.

    First, of all Randal is correct it is a single Apprentice. In all of the past cycles of the Apprentice there was never a situation where two were hired. There was potential for more than one person to be hired but it never materialized. There should be only one.

    Second, of all Trump should never have put Randal in the position to be the bad guy. If Trump wanted to hire two he should have just hired two. And if he wanted to hire the girl over Randal he should have done that. He should have known that by putting it to Randal he was loosing the power in the situation.

    Third, why does Randal have so many degrees? Because he cannot be as good as, he cannot be better than, no he has to be Randal the golden boy. The fact that we are comparing Randal to a woman who is 23 and very few business experiences proved that. Come on, give me a break, there is no comparing of the two, ask Alla, in fact ask all of the contestants.

    Fourth, if I were in his position I would have done the exact same thing and I dare you to say that you would have done any different. And if you believe that you would have done the same thing, why should Randal behave any differently. It is not a matter of selfishness; it is a matter of being a good, competent, astute businessman. I would have gone even further and said that there should be only one apprentice and if you don’t want be and you want her so be it but damn it why should he have to share the spot light??? Who has been given that burden before? Why should he have to take the back see and Drive Miss Daisy????

    The bottom line is that if Trump wanted the girl he should have picked the girl, but he knew that he could not do that and be seen as competent, so what does he do, he makes Randal have to share what he has worked so hard for. Nope, there is only one apprentice! Why should number 2 ride on the coat tails of number 1? There is no logical explanation for that.

    Finally, Randal does not NEED this show or this job in any way shape or form. That is the beauty of it! He got it because he did not need it. The girl on the other hand needs this job to continue to shape her resume. I will take you up on your bet any day. I will bet you $100 that in 10 years Randal’s career will out shine the girls any day of the week, month, or year.

    December 16th, 2005 at 2:57 pm (permalink)

  35. J Black replied:

    Randal wasn’t even asked to share his title. He would give up nothing, except for the respect of many, many viewers for his action to deny Rebecca her own chance to prove herself on separate project. The Donald asked him if he should hire Rebecca. The answer should clearly have been yes. In fact, Trump should hire many of the candidates who distinguished themselves throughout the show, not for project management, but in areas in which they would likely prove to exceed the performance of most other candidates. Just like his huge gaff in failing to plan for bad weather for an outdoor event, he has failed to measure the potential reaction of the world to his refusal to give Rebecca a chance to succeed at no cost to himself.

    Trump and Randal need to act quickly to reverse the decision as damage control, or risk a loss of respect that can’t be regained from any other course of action.

    December 16th, 2005 at 2:58 pm (permalink)

  36. Rogers replied:

    THE APPRENTICE… NOT!!!!!!

    Apprenticeships, by design, are for younger individuals to get started in their careers!

    Trump really missed a huge marketing opportunity by not hiring Rebecca against Randal’s opinion and being able to promote both of his new big projects via 2 Apprentices. Who’s the boss/mentor… Randal or Trump?!?!?!

    Why didn’t they disclose the donations Yahoo received after Rebecca’s charity event?????????

    Randal showed his true colors by his unwillingness to share the limelight with Rebecca and invite her to be hired as well (they have enough projects for both).

    Randal did not manage his last task… he didn’t plan (no contingency plan for rain), he just flew by the seat of his pants… after all his education and he just flew by the seat of his pants. Ridiculous!

    Hiring Randal because he has more life experience defeats the entire basis of the show (inherently Apprenticeships are for younger, less life-experienced people). Just have regular interviews and then hire the most experienced person — but don’t call it The Apprentice if you’re going to tell them, “Sorry, you don’t have enough experience!” (Being 38, I’m not speaking from an age biased perspective.)

    I didn’t even care for Rebecca early on in the program. I thought James was a good candidate. But just don’t give such an oxymoronic reason for not selecting the younger candidate when she did just as well as the “more experienced” one.

    It would have been a much more interesting finale if Trump had fired Randal for not making the right decision to hire Rebecca, and then hired Rebecca — essentially “Trumping” Randal!!! Drama, unpredictability, twists & turns — that’s entertainment!

    Rebecca would have been a better Apprentice because she was not only Randal’s equal (why didn’t they disclose how much in donations came into Yahoo after the event???), but because she is just starting out in her career — the definition of an Apprentice. Rebecca proved she had the right stuff to become a great business person (intelligence, maintains composure, thinks clearly under pressure, etc), she just needed the opportunity!

    Rebecca did just as well as Randal and she’s only 23, just think about her potential when she is Randal’s age!

    This was my First & Last season of The Apprentice! It was a waste of my time and I will never be suckered into it again!

    December 16th, 2005 at 3:02 pm (permalink)

  37. Derrick replied:

    J Black, I have to disagree. By asking Randall at that instant, he was being asked to share the title. Once again, if Trump wanted them both, he should’ve chosen them both himself. As far as hiring other candidates, I agree. But he should do it behind the scenes, instead of putting his new hire on the spot like he did.

    Besides, what did you people expect? This isn’t Martha Stewart’s Apprentice. This is Donald Trump’s Apprentice. How far would the candidate’s on Martha’s show have gone on Donald’s? The guys and girls on his show are ruthless go getters. Those board room sessions are no joke. They didn’t make it to the top by always being nice guys. Just follow the tagline of the show: “It’s nothing personal. It’s just business”.

    December 16th, 2005 at 3:05 pm (permalink)

  38. Lydia replied:

    Apprenti is actually “real” Latin. Maybe he picked it up at one of those esteemed institutions???

    Rebecca was not a star except in the boardroom. She didn’t have the respect or confidence of her teammates, and she lost as PM and was on losing teams repeatedly. She is not as accomplished as Randall in the business world, either. As he stated, “I own businesses, Rebecca writes about them!”

    Randall did say that he respected her, and I believe him. Respecting someone and thinking they are your equal and therefore deserve an equal job position with you are totally different. In my mind, Randall remained true to his integrity by not offering her a job he specifically said she lacked experience for.

    December 16th, 2005 at 3:08 pm (permalink)

  39. RealityTVFan replied:

    Ok, Derrick, if it is just business, why didn’t Randall do what is best for his new employer and business? Hiring Rebecca would have made an overall stronger team and Randall should have been proud to work in the same company as her. That is a business decision!! Making an organization stronger and being a team player is important and he didn’t do that.

    December 16th, 2005 at 3:09 pm (permalink)

  40. KReedy replied:

    As to the comment that Rebecca didnt get any money for her charity?? Did we forget she was told not too and what about the $50 grand she got during the finale?

    December 16th, 2005 at 3:11 pm (permalink)

  41. Damien Outlaw replied:

    ” Attention, there seems to be a
    The last assignment was a fund-raising one. Randal’s team raised $11,000.
    Rebeca’s: 0. On that fact alone, she would not have been worthy to be a ‘winner’ since she failed in the task given.
    Right? Or does someone want to change the Rule of ‘The Apprentice’ Game again? ”

    great point..but to all these morons a person with a undefeated PM record is equal to one with a losing record who raised no money for her charity

    Once a minority wins the Apprentice we shoudd then change the rules so a completely inferior canidate also gets the ultimate reward?????

    You guys are losers. Its a disturbing trend I see in America. You all are probably the types that put your kids in youth soccer leagues that don’t keep score because no one wants to get their feelings hurt.

    December 16th, 2005 at 3:12 pm (permalink)

  42. Jane replied:

    It’s nothing personal. It’s just business.

    December 16th, 2005 at 3:13 pm (permalink)

  43. Rogers replied:

    If Randal is full of integrity and is so accomplished, why does he want to bail on his partners at BCT? Randal doesn’t run a “real” business either, he tells people how they should be running theirs… I don’t see a lot of difference between consulting in person and consulting in written form as a Financial Journalist.

    December 16th, 2005 at 3:13 pm (permalink)

  44. NeSheryl replied:

    He deserved to win. ALONE. Why should he have to share the glory? Donald Trump probably really didn’t want to hire him anyway due to his being black. He has no other african americans working for him, not even doing entry level work. Donald knew Randall was the most qualified and that if he were not hired, then Omarosa’s claims about race would maybe be validated. I want to know why Randall is being called selfish for saying what he did? He has a right to be recognized as this year’s apprentice just like the previous winners. Did they have to share the limelight? NO, so why should he? He shouldn’t.

    December 16th, 2005 at 3:14 pm (permalink)

  45. Sick to death replied:

    I am so sick of everything in this country coming down to race. I have not heard one person say Rebecca lost because she was a woman. So why because Randal won and is an African American is he not considered selfish to the African American public? I would have been the first to say that Rebecca was a Witch if the situation was reversed and I am White and female. There will never be equality, if people of the same of any race agree or take someones side just because of thier color. Isn’t that a form of racism? Donald Trump did not offer two positions because Randal was African American,he offered the positions to two capable worthy individuals. Just like he changed the game by firing 4 people in the boardroom.I just wish everyone would wake up and see themselves as human beings,not just black or white.

    December 16th, 2005 at 3:14 pm (permalink)

  46. NeSheryl replied:

    Racism still exists. It is alive and well and thriving. I wish it were not so, but it isn’t going anywhere. I still say Randall WAS NOT selfish for wanting the job to himself. Why should he have to share it? Did the others have to? NO

    December 16th, 2005 at 3:19 pm (permalink)

  47. Rogers replied:

    I haven’t seen an “Apprentice Rule Book”! Trump is the boss. He makes up the rules as he goes along. End of story.

    December 16th, 2005 at 3:19 pm (permalink)

  48. Garcelle replied:

    Trump put Randal on the spot in a bad way. I don’t necessarily disagree with Randal’s opinion, but he would have come off much better without being so sarcastic and ungracious. That is not the Randal we came to know. However, in the heat of the moment, he just had to react. Being told you won, then being called back and ask to share the win is not the best position to be put in.

    As far as Rebecca, I find it curious that Trump claimed she raised no money. True, there was no money raised at the actual event, but I find it VERY HARD to believe that not a SINGLE donation envelope was returned after the event. This seemed a ploy for the Yahoo! COO to stand up and make the grand gesture of a donation. And unfortunately, it made Rebecca seem like she failed miserably in fundraising when in all likelihood she did not. Editing for the desired result?

    December 16th, 2005 at 3:20 pm (permalink)

  49. Sick to death replied:

    Ok,but at least admit that they were two talented individuals and the reason Rebecca was also offered a position was because she was capable. Not because its a conspiracy against Randals race…

    December 16th, 2005 at 3:22 pm (permalink)

  50. Damien Outlaw replied:

    If its not about race then explain to me this: Were Bill, Kelly or Kendra asked to share their rewards??????

    Kwame, Jennifer M, and Tana were all much superior canidates in the show and in real life than Rebecca.

    Oh…I forgot rebecca has cruthces….she’s so great….1-2 as a PM and she raises no money for her charity……(sigh)

    December 16th, 2005 at 3:22 pm (permalink)

  51. NeSheryl replied:

    I agree that he was put in a bad situation. Why were the previous winners not asked to bask in the glory together?

    December 16th, 2005 at 3:22 pm (permalink)

  52. Derrick replied:

    RealityTVFan,

    IMHO, that wasn’t Randall’s responsibility. That was Trump’s. He could’ve asked Randall to hire just about anyone that was fired previously. He could’ve asked him to hire Josh, Marshawn, Alla, etc. Would you guys be upset if he had done that? Once again, it’s a game. There should be only one winner. As I stated before, Jen from season 2 would’ve been an excellent employee in the Trump organization. And Trump was a fan of hers as well, yet Kelly wasn’t asked if she should be hired also. Again, Randall should never have been put in that position. No one seems to want to grasp or understand that. That should’ve been Trump’s decision and his alone.

    And Sick to death, the reason race is being brought up is because Randall is the first black man/woman hired by Trump. He hired a woman last season (and rightfully so, because I thought from the first boardroom Kendra would be the winner).

    December 16th, 2005 at 3:24 pm (permalink)

  53. Sick to death replied:

    Because all of the other Apprentices were at eachothers throats by the end of the game. would you be saying a word if Rebecca won and was asked to share with Randal?

    December 16th, 2005 at 3:25 pm (permalink)

  54. kara replied:

    Let’s compare it to a lottery winning. A once in a lifetime lottery winning. If you have all the numbers exactly as they should be, but someone else is missing one, WHY should you have to share it? You shouldn’t you won alone. This is his limelight to bask in by himself and he deserves it

    December 16th, 2005 at 3:25 pm (permalink)

  55. MDoran replied:

    I would have made the same decision as Randal. Think about it. Randal is a company man. He has been hired by Trump. He now works for Trump and is responsible for giving good advice to Trump. Who knows more about Rebecca than Randal? They worked and lived together longer than any of the other applicants. Randal knows if Rebecca can handle a position as difficult as one working for Donald.

    Randal did not want to give bad advice to Donald just because he was “flying high” from winning the show. He knew if he recommended the hiring of Rebecca it would be a bad recommendation. My opinion is Randal wanted to let Donald know this without coming across as a jerk who downgrades a beaten opponents skills after a win. So, he took what he considered to be the high road, telling Donald that he should not hire Rebecca as per the rules of the show. In reality, he knew that the hiring of Rebecca would be a mistake for Donald that could cost him thousands of dollars.

    Randal attempted to convey this without beating up on Rebeccah anymore in front of millions of people. It could have been worded better, but I like his style.

    December 16th, 2005 at 3:27 pm (permalink)

  56. Nesheryl replied:

    Trump shouldn’t have offered the job to be shared. There has only been one winner in the past, why two now?

    December 16th, 2005 at 3:28 pm (permalink)

  57. Bob replied:

    It’s clear that Trump himself had no “Plan B”. He was caught off guard by Randal not wanting Rebecca to have a job.

    December 16th, 2005 at 3:28 pm (permalink)

  58. Rogers replied:

    I agree Randal was put in an awkward situation… but he really disappointed me when he did an about-face from his former gracious persona and had to put Rebecca down to feel better about himself.

    Equal Rights is still the biggest form of discrimination in this country. Black men received the right to vote before any color of women did!

    December 16th, 2005 at 3:28 pm (permalink)

  59. Derrick replied:

    Sick to death, that is not true. bill and Kwame weren’t at each others throats. And I don’t believe Kelly and Jen were either. The competition and board rooms are set up to be cutthroat. Of that, thre is no argument.Why anyone is so surprised this happened is beyond me.

    December 16th, 2005 at 3:28 pm (permalink)

  60. Tanis replied:

    I can’t help but wonder what the reactions here would be if a) Rebecca won and didn’t agree to Trump hiring Randal, and b) Rebecca won and agreed to Trump hiring Randal.

    And, to whomever said Trump has no African Americans working for him, even in entry level positions - you’re out to lunch. My cousin’s room-mate (in New York City) works for the Trump organization as a litigation specialist. She’s a black woman and her position is most definitely higher than entry level. Check your facts before you make blanket statements.

    December 16th, 2005 at 3:30 pm (permalink)

  61. Insider replied:

    The whole thing was “wired”. Trump hand picked this cast. Randall was going to win unless he did something TOTALLY insane. The winners had been 2 white guys and a white woman….. how much longer do you think Trump could go before being labeled racist???? Please! Is he good, sure. Is he GREAT? No. He owns a consulting company. He doesn’t “do” he tells others how to do…. lots o book brains… but can he do it…
    Sorry wasn’t impressed.

    December 16th, 2005 at 3:31 pm (permalink)

  62. Derrick replied:

    Rogers, you do NOT want to get into a discrimination battle here. Yes, balcks were given the right to vote before women, but women were a lot more free to excercise that right.

    And Bob…great reply!

    December 16th, 2005 at 3:31 pm (permalink)

  63. Derrick replied:

    Tanis, I was the one who said that, and I didn’t say Trump hasn’t hired blacks. I’m not that stupid. In the 4 seasons of The Apprentice, Randall was the first black man/woman hired. So maybe you need to get YOUR facts straight before you make idiotic statements.

    December 16th, 2005 at 3:34 pm (permalink)

  64. Rogers replied:

    Derrick — Bring it on! Yeah, we’re “free” to be paid the same wage for the same amount of work… Not!

    December 16th, 2005 at 3:34 pm (permalink)

  65. Me replied:

    Nobody asked Randal to share his title. He was asked if Rebecca should be hired. Would he have thought there should only be one Apprentice if the tables were turned and Rebecca was hired and was asked if Trump should hire him? Do you think he would have turned the job down because there was only suppose to be one person hired? Maybe,he should have asked Trump to bring back 3 of the 4 people fired because only one was SUPPOSE to be fired. He would have shined even brighter if he hadn’t been so selfish.

    December 16th, 2005 at 3:38 pm (permalink)

  66. Derrick replied:

    Discrimination exists for both blacks and women. Of that there is no dispute. But youbrought up the right to vote, and I checked you on it. You want to talk about wages? That’s a whole different ballgame. I already know women don’t get paid the same as women. And that’s a discussion for another time, another place. Not here.

    December 16th, 2005 at 3:38 pm (permalink)

  67. Nesheryl replied:

    Rogers, were white women killed for trying to vote? No, We women have not had it rough like African Americans there is no comparison. Randall deserved to win.

    December 16th, 2005 at 3:40 pm (permalink)

  68. LYNN P. replied:

    IT IS SO OBVIOUS THAT DONALD TRUMP DIDN’T WANT TO HIRE BOTH OF THEM IN THE BEGINNING OF THE HIRE BECAUSE HE HAD A WHOLE LOT OF RESPECT FOR RANDALL. I THNK RANDALL IS A COMPLETE SELFISH, AND NO CLASS HUMAN BEING. I WOULD NEVER DO BUSINESS WITH HIM AND I AM SURE THERE WILL BE ALOT OF PEOPLE THAT WOULD NEVER DO ANY SORT OF BUSINESS WITH HIM. WHEN DONALD TRUMP ASKED HIM WHAT HE THOUGHT ABOUT HIRING REBECCA, HE DIDN’T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT A HALF A SECOND BEFORE HE SHOUTED OUT “NO”. EVERYONE I KNOW THINKS HE IS A JERK.

    December 16th, 2005 at 3:40 pm (permalink)

  69. kara replied:

    Well, he was asked what he thought and he thought it should go to him and him alone. What is the purpose of the show if there is more than one “winner”? Before long it will be like American Idol where EVERYBODY gets a contract

    December 16th, 2005 at 3:44 pm (permalink)

  70. Tanis replied:

    No, Derrick, I wasn’t responding to your comment. I checked back and in message #44 NeSheryl stated that Trump has no African Americans working for him, even in entry level positions. And, there is no reason to be insulting. An energetic exchange of opinions is healthy, but let’s try to have our facts straight and remain civil.

    December 16th, 2005 at 3:45 pm (permalink)

  71. Derrick replied:

    Well Lynn, obviously Randall has been pretty successful without your business, so I’m sure he’s not shedding any tears.

    December 16th, 2005 at 3:45 pm (permalink)

  72. Derrick replied:

    Ok Tanis…I’m down with that. my apologies.

    December 16th, 2005 at 3:46 pm (permalink)

  73. Mary replied:

    It’s Clay and Reuben all over again. How come it only happens when the black people win???

    December 16th, 2005 at 3:46 pm (permalink)

  74. Ralph replied:

    Ha, Ha, Ha, America the jokes on you because you still can’t shake your racial demons and it’s preventing you from being a homogeneous nation. It’s like a chain around you ankle preventing you from uniting and working together with one another to be a True Super Power all of human history could aspire to.

    Take a look at your recent track record.
    Why do the majority of blacks think that OJ was innocent and the majority of whites that he was guilty?
    Also, after removing the debate whether you are for or against the death penalty, why do the majority of blacks think that Stanley “Tookie” Williams should not have been executed and the majority of whites that he should be?
    And now with The Apprentice what does Donald Trump giving Randal the option to pick Rebecca or not have to do with race?

    The answer is because as American’s you are a racially divided county. And you have to answer almost everything from a racial prospective and not a homogeneous prospective.
    So the jokes on you America, The Apprentice didn’t end last night, it was just handed off to the public arena while we all watch and read how much we dislike each other based on race alone.

    December 16th, 2005 at 3:47 pm (permalink)

  75. Derrick replied:

    No kidding Mary. I thought Bo should’ve won last season, but Carrie was equally deserving. Should both of them have been winners? You can make an argument that they should. But for the purpose of the show, absolutely not. Carrie won, fair and square, and shouldn’t have to share the spoils of victory. Same as Randall. He shouldn’t have been asked to share.

    December 16th, 2005 at 3:49 pm (permalink)

  76. Rogers replied:

    It’s already been noted that white men won the first two seasons, a white woman last season… it was actually reverse discrimination because Trump did not want to risk a backlash from the black community by hiring another white person. He was counting on Randal’s former display of graciousness to make everyone happy.

    Derrick - You bet I brought up wages, because it’s all one continuum… women receive the power men want to give to them, when they want to give it, because we are still the weaker sex and cannot simply take it! Just as you are trying to bully me by talking TOUGH! You don’t know a thing about me… I’m actually tri-racial (American Indian, Black & White).

    December 16th, 2005 at 3:50 pm (permalink)

  77. sarah replied:

    I am a white woman and I must admit that I was shocked when Randal didn’t suggest that Mr. Trump should hire Rebecca as well - I thought anyone would have done that.

    Nevertheless, today I feel differently. Unfortunately, african american men and woman have a disadvantage in business, and Randal deserved to win regardless of his color. In the age of affirmative action, I think it is so important for someone who is as intelligent and talented as Randal to be allowed to shine on his own and enjoy his win. I also believe that if Mr. trump had asked him that same question before declaring Randal the winner, Randal would have made the same statement despite the risk of losing - there should be only one apprentice.

    One thing makes me wonder though - if Rebecca had been black, would Randal have made the same decision?

    December 16th, 2005 at 3:51 pm (permalink)

  78. NeSheryl replied:

    As an african american female, the majority of us do NOT think OJ was innocent. The main reason so many african americans were happy that he got off is because in history so many of our ancestors were lynched and hung from trees and put in prison simply because of an all white jury or some not even given a trial at all just killed. We saw that maybe, just maybe that was finally over. I know OJ did it. He should have been punished. But, he was found innocent and by law should be left alone.

    December 16th, 2005 at 3:53 pm (permalink)

  79. Derrick replied:

    Rogers, I am in no way trying to bully you. This is a discussion about The Apprentice, not racial discrimination in America. And you don’t know a thing about me either. I’m black and Native American. I think women have had a rough go of it, just as any non-white in this country. As far as women recieving the power men give them, that’s bull. I’ve watched my mom and my sister go out and get what they thought was there’s.

    As far as Randall, once again, he should not have been in that position to begin with. And if Rebecca would’ve won, I would’ve been disappointed as I’ve been a fan of Randal’s all season, but she was worthy as well. And I would’ve felt the same way…in no way shape pr form should she be placed in a position to have Trump hire Randal as well. If she said no, I would be waging this same debate.

    December 16th, 2005 at 3:57 pm (permalink)

  80. NeSheryl replied:

    You are right, Derrick we should stick to the discussion of the apprentice. No one wins when discussing racial discrimination.

    December 16th, 2005 at 4:00 pm (permalink)

  81. D.G. replied:

    Do you think it was fair of Donald Trump to put Randal in that position 10 seconds into his victory by asking him to share the prize of working for the Trump organization with someone else? I think not. If Trump wanted to hire both of them, then he should have made that decision and taken the criticism that Randal is now getting? And no one has mentioned this, but if the comedy event was a regular task and the team managed to raise $0, Trump would have not only fired the project manager, but probably the entire team. Randal had a great record and raised $11,000 in the final project and deserved to be the Apprentice. And he earned the right to be in the spotlight by himself, just like every previous Apprentice. Also, if you think about it, what was really so impressive about Rebecca? Maybe Trump should make this a regular thing and ask that question of every future apprentice from now on. That would be interesting.

    December 16th, 2005 at 4:02 pm (permalink)

  82. EZ-E replied:

    I can understand where Randal is coming from in not wanting to hire Rebecca. Apprentice is a competition and there should only be one winner. Rebecca will not have a problem with offers. In fact on the today show the representatives from Yahoo offered her a position with Yahoo Finance. But back to Randal’s decision, I agree with it. You can compare it with the Olympics….is a Gold Medal winner supposed to cut his medal in half and give it to the Silver Medalist just because the Silver Medalist was “almost” as good? Randal was the best and lets leave it at that.

    December 16th, 2005 at 4:03 pm (permalink)

  83. Rogers replied:

    Sarah, I agree. Randal stuck by Marshawn even after she bailed on her team in the 11th hour by not giving the presentation she had worked on the entire time, thereby making her a non-contributor. I would never hire anyone who bailed like that!

    I think Americans are too eager to assume the victim role and shout “discrimination” when things don’t go their way. (I brought up female discrimination in response to the racial discrimination bantered about Randal — to level the playing field between he and Rebecca. Yet some men [Derrick] still refuse to accept reality!)

    December 16th, 2005 at 4:03 pm (permalink)

  84. Me replied:

    So,I suppose if Scott Peterson was found innocent all of us white people would have cheered and had riots in the streets? Why can’t people look at individuals as individuals? Black,White,Chinese we are all HUMAN. I know that African Americans had it very tough for quite some time. Isn’t it time now though,to stop blaming everyone for all of your problems? Never once have I ever looked at someone and thought I don’t like him/her because they are black. I have,however been in situations where I would smile at a African American woman in a bathroom as I would anyone else,and had been heckled while in the stall because they didn’t know who I(Blondy) thought I was…Is there racism? Sure,but its not all one sided.

    December 16th, 2005 at 4:04 pm (permalink)

  85. NeSheryl replied:

    To me, who are you to say that all African Americans blame someone else for their problems? I

    December 16th, 2005 at 4:07 pm (permalink)

  86. Rogers replied:

    Derrick — And what did your mother and sister get that was theirs? Surely not CEO of a Fortune 500 company… because no one likes a pushy broad. Alla reminds us all of that!

    December 16th, 2005 at 4:07 pm (permalink)

  87. NeSheryl replied:

    The FACT remains that no one has it harder than an african american man. No other race or us women.

    December 16th, 2005 at 4:09 pm (permalink)

  88. J Black replied:

    Face it. Randal’s comments instantly lost the respect of many, many viewers. Even if you agree with his actions, you have to realize that the fact that there IS a controversy about this, proves that he lost respect. To be gracious in winning would only have benefited him. He would lose nothing. Sharing the spotlight wouldn’t have hurt him at all. I thought he was the better candidate. I did’t think that Rebecca should have “won”. Yet in his last action, he lost my respect. Race, gender have nothing to do with it. On a TV show, public perception IS THE REAL GAME. In the PERCEPTION GAME, Randal lost. Another example: YAHOO! lost the PERCEPTION GAME. They come off has being disengenous snobs who are more interested in protecting their clients from solicitation that to SUPPORT THE CHARITY FOR WHICH THE EVENT WAS FOR! The last minute 100K donation was an obvious attempt to save face. It didn’t work. I think that most people could see it for what it was: a huge blunder and attempted recovery. For Yahoo, $100 grand is a paltry sum to correct such a huge gaff, considering that a _regular 30 second ad spot_ would cost more than that in fees and costs. $250 grand per charity would’ve been more appropriate for a company with a $60B market cap and $5B in revenue. Yahoo brings in $250grand every half hour, folks. Now if the Yahoo execs took the right course of action in the first place, which would have been to encourage donations from their clients for a charity event, they wouldn’t have needed to donate anything beyond the sponsorship expenses. Once the need for damage control becomes apparent, the expectations change, since it’s much harder to regain lost respect than to maintain high regard. This is why Randal lost the PUBLIC PERCEPTION GAME, while winning The Apprentice Game.

    December 16th, 2005 at 4:10 pm (permalink)

  89. D.G. replied:

    Trump owns the Miss America contest. Maybe he should ask the winner if she would like to share the spotlight with the runner up.

    December 16th, 2005 at 4:10 pm (permalink)

  90. Derrick replied:

    Hey me, when you’ve been discriminated the way I have, we can have a discussion about equality. I don’t balme anyone for my problems. Anything that happens to me because of my actions I take full responsibilty for. being called the N-word becasue i was speaking to a white woman? I blame the racist. Scott Petersen murdered a white woman. If he would’ve been acquitted, there would be outrage. White men were acquitted for lynching black men. Some blacks in this country thought the OJ decision was, in the immortal words of Malcolm X, the “chickens coming home to roost”. I’m not saying that’s right, but it is reality.

    As far as Randal sticking by Marshawn, how about Rebecca sticking by Toral when she bailed on her team? Would you hire anyone like that? If so, you’re being a hypocrite.

    December 16th, 2005 at 4:12 pm (permalink)

  91. Rogers replied:

    Let’s face it… Trump tried to show everyone that there’s room for more than one at the top, that we can all get along, and that business in America doesn’t have to be cutthroat — and Randal shot it down because Rebecca gave her honest opinion a few moments before that Randal did not stay focused on his task and plan appropriately… and that ticked him off and he went for revenge.

    I give Randal props for being optimistic that it wouldn’t rain… but the saying goes, “Hope for the best and plan for the worst”.

    December 16th, 2005 at 4:12 pm (permalink)

  92. Insider replied:

    What was OJ’s wife’s name???? mmmmm Nicole??? served her stupid white ass right for not getting a gun when she knew he was insane to begin with…. OJ’ll get his in spades.

    December 16th, 2005 at 4:13 pm (permalink)

  93. D.G. replied:

    Shouldn’t we be blasting Trump for not having the guts to hire both candidates and take whatever criticism for it and not putting Randal in that situation?

    December 16th, 2005 at 4:13 pm (permalink)

  94. esther joseph replied:

    hi everyone

    why fight over such brains that america has given birth too aint we proud of the accomplishment of both parties, blame not rendal, but Mr trump, he had the power to hire this lovely Rebecca, trump loved rebecca and there is no denying of that she is young and pretty, so why not allow her to share in the victory, trump could not openly deny rendall of the golden medal because he knowS that randall is brillant, so therefore by putting randal in this position when he has already win and calling him again to ask him to share in his victory is absurd, yes she was great, wasn,t kwame great, did trump asked the winner of the first episde to share his victory with kwame no, kwame was a better leader than the first appentise why nothing wasnt ask of him, omarasa was a obstruction to Kwame,s victory why didn,t trump feel sorry for kwame as he felt for Rebecca.

    Mr trump this is not business ethic, as you alway say it is business and i mean nothing personAL, so likewise with Rendal .

    WHITE AMERICA TRY TO RESPECT THE BRAIN THAT THE GOD OF THE UNIVERSE HAS PUT IN YOUR MIDS, AFTER ALL THE CARISMA THAT RANDAL HAS SHOWN ON THE APPRENTICE, THIS ONE THING SHOULD NOT CAUSE WHITE AMERICA TO COMMENT SO HARSHLY ABOUT THIS BRILLANT PERSON IN YOUR MIDS, i am white as white america,esther

    December 16th, 2005 at 4:14 pm (permalink)

  95. Derrick replied:

    Rogers, my sister is a project manager for MCI, a position she wanted. She has no aspirations of running a Fortune 500 company. My mom worked her tail off and retired before she was 50. She’s now living in Las Vegas. She got what she wanted as well. And the beauty of it…neither of them has a college education. They saw what they wanted, and they got it.

    December 16th, 2005 at 4:14 pm (permalink)

  96. chad replied:

    Randal won… game over… I give him his props…he was the better of the two for Trump to hire…I feel that trump made a good move in hiring Randal…however here is where the questionable decision came into play.
    When Trump said “Randal…your hired” the game was over. It was then that trump let Randal make his first business decision as the apprentice. Clearly Rebecca would be an outstanding asset to the Trump company and to any company for that matter. I hardly think any one would disagree. When Trump ask Randal if he should hire Rebecca he was no longer refering to the apprentice but for the trump orginization. Randal said no and that was a bad decision and Trump knew it. Thats what was with the confused look on Trumps face. So to you who say that him saying no was a good business move for him, I am forced to disagree. I believe he just set himself back in the Trump orginization due to the fact that his pride stands between him and his work. Randal is only out for him self and not the betterment of the Trump orginization and I hope “The Donald” sees that.

    December 16th, 2005 at 4:16 pm (permalink)

  97. Insider replied:

    J Black…… right on…… WHY didn’t they reveal how much the comedy event brought in??? Either they were embarrassed by the tight wad attendees OR they brought in way more than Randy’s 11k. If they brought in MORE than Rebecca would have had the right to claim victory don’t you think???

    December 16th, 2005 at 4:18 pm (permalink)

  98. Me replied:

    Derrick,were you lynched or hung? I feel awful about what happened years ago and feel that like all else its in the past. My 1st boyfriend was African American,and I got called alot worse than the n-word,from both sides of the fence. As far as your people getting a raw deal,I completely agree with you. But you blaming us for what our ancestors did is like me hating you because you are the same color as OJ. There are prejudices but like I have said before,its not all one sided.

    December 16th, 2005 at 4:19 pm (permalink)

  99. Derrick replied:

    Chad, you make a valid point. But once again, why single out Randall? Why not ask Kelly? Jen would’ve been an asset. Why not ask Bill? Kwame would’ve been an asset as well. Once again, it was unfair of Trump to put Randal in that position when he had not done that with any other Apprentice winner. And it’s not about race. none of the winning Apprentice’s should be put in that position.

    December 16th, 2005 at 4:20 pm (permalink)

  100. D.G. replied:

    I wonder what Trump would have done if he were in Randal’s position. Everything that Trump has shown about himself, (self-promoting, arrogant, cutthroat, etc.)would suggest that he would have made the same decision as Randal.

    December 16th, 2005 at 4:21 pm (permalink)

  101. Insider replied:

    Yeah Trump needs some help in the “image” area and rebecca could have really helped there… either that or he just wanted her around …

    December 16th, 2005 at 4:21 pm (permalink)

  102. Hank replied:

    If Randal(l?) is such a hotshot in a group of so called consultants, and being his own boss with the potential of earning unlimited income, why did he spend all that time trying to earn the chance of being egomaniac Trump’s flunky?

    December 16th, 2005 at 4:22 pm (permalink)

  103. Insider replied:

    yo Hank… props

    December 16th, 2005 at 4:23 pm (permalink)

  104. Mary replied:

    That just so much folly! I don’t live in LA, and I didn’t even know who Tookie Williams was.

    OJ was rich and had good lawyers so he got off PERIOD. And that is just not true that only black folks believed he was innocent and cheering for him. Most of those people cheering when he got off in LA were white. Yes they had the black law students, but damn-it they were cheering OJ lawyers, not OJ…..get it? They were cheering Johnny C. I saw that same night a bar FULL of white people in BUFFALO cheering and screaming when OJ got off. Saw it that first night then they never showed it on television again. Why? Because the media wanted to push this all blacks believe in OJ, all whites do not. It ain’t that simple.

    My problem with what Trump did was why take the BEST candidate in the history of your show, and try to make him share the award with someone who was just ok, or good?

    I think after people cool down they will realized that Trump set him up.

    But you do have a point Ralph……..black folks ain’t mad at Randy.

    And you know what, if it was the other way around I would say no Randy cause, I would be embarrassed if he won that way.

    December 16th, 2005 at 4:24 pm (permalink)

  105. Derrick replied:

    Me, I said what happened after happened with the OJ trial wasn’t right. But again, when you are discriminated against, you do turn bitter. You dated a black man and were called names. I’m sorry that happened. But when you stopped dating him, the name calling ceased, right? And once again, I’m not blaming you for what your ancestors did. But it is a sordid part of our history, and racism, while not as blatant as it was, is still exists here.

    December 16th, 2005 at 4:24 pm (permalink)

  106. D.G. replied:

    Trump is a load!

    December 16th, 2005 at 4:25 pm (permalink)

  107. Rogers replied:

    Hank - You hit the nail on the head! ;}

    December 16th, 2005 at 4:25 pm (permalink)

  108. Me replied:

    Derrick,that is really too bad and there are alot of people in my race that are vile human beings and nobody deserves to be singled out no matter what color they are.

    December 16th, 2005 at 4:27 pm (permalink)

  109. sarah replied:

    I think the racism issue is very interesting, b/c I truly do want to be fair and not have a prejudiced outlook on the outcome. I really think the problem is that I judged Randall the same as a white man - I judged him equally. If a white man had done what Randall did I would have been equally shocked and flabergasted. After all, the show portrayed Randall as being so complimentary of Rebecca and his comments seem to come out of nowhere and shocked everyone. Because he already had the job (and was really recognized as the winner by being picked first by Donald),
    i didn’t understand why he would care if Rebecca was hired as well, since she was equally competent and probably better than anyone else who has ever won the apprentice in the past, besides Bill.

    That is my fault, b/c as a woman in a large corporate office dominated by men, I truly understand how difficult it is to succeed as a woman and how you really need to claim your prizes and accolades when they are well-deserved, otherwise, someone else will jump in and steal them. And as a woman, I have to work twice as hard to gain the respect of everyone, since I don’t play golf, I don’t have the male comraderie that everyone else has. It is nowhere near as difficult as being black, I am sure, but I do have some understanding of those people who are angry about some of the reactions to Randall’s statement.

    The point I am trying to make though, right or wrong, is that the people critizing Randall’s behavior are not doing so because they are racist (or at least most of them aren’t, I hope), they are doing so because they viewed him on the same level of an equivalent white person in his position, and failed to take racial issues into consideration.

    December 16th, 2005 at 4:28 pm (permalink)

  110. Rogers replied:

    Derrick - No reply to “Alla the pushy broad” not getting what she saw and wanted? Guess you can’t DEAL with someone who actually uses her brain.

    December 16th, 2005 at 4:32 pm (permalink)

  111. Derrick replied:

    Me, racism does work both ways. And I’m not bitter against whites. But when things happen, like this discussion we’re having about Randal/Rebecca, the first thing that pops in your mind is “are people saying this because Rebecca was the cute white girl?”. That’s one reason why I continue to say that it was wrong for Trump to put Randall in that situation. He liked Rebecca. Hell, I liked Rebecca. She’s from the city I work in! But Randal won fair and square and should not have been asked to share the spotlight.

    Also, there are vile blacks as well, who hate whites just because oftheir skin color. Hell, from dating a black man, you know all to well, because I’m sure black women didn’t appreciate that too much did they? But you are absolutely right. No one should be singled out like that.

    December 16th, 2005 at 4:32 pm (permalink)

  112. Derrick replied:

    Rogers, I didn’t see your comment about Alla. I have no problem with her. I think she deserved to be in the final more than Rebecca did. I think Trump made a HUGE mistake firing her when he did. I would’ve loved to have seen a board room showdown between those two! She would’ve given Randal more than he bargained for!

    December 16th, 2005 at 4:35 pm (permalink)

  113. Rogers replied:

    Derrick - Why does it have to be a winner take all mentality? That’s exactly the brute force I referred to.

    Trump tried to show everyone that there’s room for more than one at the top, that we can all get along, and that business in America doesn’t have to be cutthroat — and Randal shot it down because Rebecca gave her honest opinion a few moments before that Randal did not stay focused on his task and plan appropriately… and that ticked him off and he went for revenge.

    December 16th, 2005 at 4:36 pm (permalink)

  114. D.G. replied:

    Hooray Derrick! Randal should never have been asked that question!!!! Trump was wrong and didn’t have the guts to hire both and take the criticism! I lost a lot of respect for Trump!

    December 16th, 2005 at 4:36 pm (permalink)

  115. sarah replied:

    Alla was way to aggressive to win. She was very rough around the edges. Plus, donald was looking for loyal, intelligent people, more in line with the “bills” and “randals” and “rebeccas” on the show.

    I don’t see Alla as being loyal - I see her as taking over the Trump organization if she could. She belongs working on her own, where I’m sure she’ll be very successful - probably more successful than Randal and Rebecca combined.

    December 16th, 2005 at 4:37 pm (permalink)

  116. D.G. replied:

    Rogers, if Trump wanted to show that then why didn’t he just make that decision and hire them both instead of putting it on Randal?

    December 16th, 2005 at 4:38 pm (permalink)

  117. Rogers replied:

    Derrick - That’s my point about Alla… she deserved to be in the final, but because she’s a driven, tough WOMAN — she was fired! So when you say a woman just has to go after what she wants and she’ll get it, is a load of crap.

    December 16th, 2005 at 4:38 pm (permalink)

  118. Mike replied:

    If Randal had just said yes, this would have been a tremendous feel-good moment for the show and simply a terrific Reality Show moment, which I would point out has yet to have been duplicated on any other show. Normally we see these cut throat endings and people long for something a little different. I have to believe that Trump had this in mind all along, yet knew that by letting Randal make the decision, this would make for an even better moment. Randal would still clearly have been the winner (and he was clearly the better choice). Trump gave him a softball to knock out of the park and he inexplicably blew it. No wonder he looked dazed and confused after Randal’s response.

    December 16th, 2005 at 4:38 pm (permalink)

  119. Rogers replied:

    D.G. - Please see my blog #36 for your answer.

    Sorry guys, I have to log off and go make some real money — dancing at the topless bar!

    December 16th, 2005 at 4:39 pm (permalink)

  120. Melanie replied:

    One question. If Donald say’s “and Someone will be fired” and fires several, then why can he not hire two?? Randell would obviously be shown as his first choice so, limelight, spotlight, who cares. A business could always benefit from two such qualified people.

    December 16th, 2005 at 4:39 pm (permalink)

  121. NeSheryl replied:

    Why were the past winners not asked to share, rogers? Why couldn’t Donald Trump “show the world about sharing” then?

    December 16th, 2005 at 4:40 pm (permalink)

  122. D.G. replied:

    Mike, if Trump wanted to show a feel good moment in reality TV then why didn’t he say “I love them both. They’re both hired.” It would have been a great moment in reality TV.

    December 16th, 2005 at 4:41 pm (permalink)

  123. Derrick replied:

    Rogers…this show has always been “winner take all”. And Trump, before last night, has never tried to show there’s room at the top for everyone. He’s cutthroat, and his show reflects that. That’s why the board rooms are always so brutal. Trump encourages his candidates to go at each other with all they’ve got. I remember in season 2 when the debate champ got fired because he didn’t fight back hard enough agianst Sandy (I think that was her name). It’s what you come to expect of this show.

    Also, I do remember Randal saying he didn’t think Rebecca was tough enough for his organization. Would’nt he be a hypocrite to turn around and say Trump should give her a job?

    December 16th, 2005 at 4:42 pm (permalink)

  124. Rogers replied:

    Just kidding — I manage a doctor’s office, but you got the point!

    NeSheryl - Apparently the past winners weren’t as evenly matched as Rebecca and Randal. Like I said, Trump is the boss and he can make up the rules as he goes along… this is reality TV!

    Signing off for good. Enjoy the rest of the debate!

    December 16th, 2005 at 4:43 pm (permalink)

  125. NeSheryl replied:

    He wanted Randall to look this way. Donald set this all up. The most qualified person won, he happens to be black and here we go. Why is it when someone black wins a reality show crap hits the fan?

    December 16th, 2005 at 4:44 pm (permalink)

  126. NeSheryl replied:

    Rogers, they were not EVENLY matched. Randall was clearly more qualified

    December 16th, 2005 at 4:45 pm (permalink)

  127. Islandgirl replied:

    Can someone explain why all of sudden Trump wanted to hire two apprentices?

    December 16th, 2005 at 4:48 pm (permalink)

  128. Derrick replied:

    I disagree about past winners not being evenly matched. I thought Kwame and bill were evenly matched. hell, I thought Jen should’ve beaten Kelly.

    And Alla wasn’t fired because she was a driven, tough woman. If Trump didn’t want that, Carolyn sure in the hell wouldn’t be working for him. Alla was fired because she and Felisha screwed up the task. She was tough, but she couldn’t be led (at least not by Felisha). Still, she shouldn’t have been fired.

    Incidentally, I loved Alla’s comment at the end about Rebecca. priceless!

    December 16th, 2005 at 4:49 pm (permalink)

  129. Derrick replied:

    Islandgirl, that’s an excellent question. I think he liked Rebecca’s loyalty, and felt sorry for her getting the broken ankle. Just my 2 cents.

    December 16th, 2005 at 4:50 pm (permalink)

  130. Rogers replied:

    Can’t resist:
    NeSheryl - Keep dreamin!! Anyone who plans an outdoor event, knows there’s rain in the forecast, and isn’t prepared ahead of time to move the event inside is an IDIOT!!!

    December 16th, 2005 at 4:50 pm (permalink)

  131. RealityTVFan replied:

    Mike #118….EXACTLY EXACTLY EXACTLY!!!

    No one is saying Randal shouldn’t have won, but it would have done him no harm professionally to accept Rebecca to. That is it, period. He could have had all the spotlight he could handle, all the accolades and done something good for the organization and for another human being. He had the chance and he blew it - period.

    December 16th, 2005 at 4:51 pm (permalink)

  132. sarah replied:

    anyone who says that randall was CLEARLY more qualified than Rebecca is flat out wrong. You have no idea - all we know is what we were shown on TV. They both have great educations, they mentioned that Rebecca raised 750k for charity when she was 15 - that shows extreme drive and ambition.
    Also, as far as the last task went, I think Rebecca did a better job. The task went so smoothly - the party looked so nice - whenever something bad happenned (like the comedian cancelling), Rebecca handled it like a pro and never got flustered. In watching Randal’s final task, it appeared that his teammates were doing a large part of the work and HE HAD NO BACK UP PLAN!!! DUH!!! As for Rebecca not raising money, she did what the executives asked of her, and they repeatedly told her not to solicit money. They were paying for the event, her hands were practically tied. Perhaps she could have come up with another subtle way to raise money, but I certainly wouldn’t say that Randall kicked her a$% in the final task. I thought they both did a good job.

    December 16th, 2005 at 4:51 pm (permalink)

  133. Derrick replied:

    Once again RealtyTVFan, why was it Randall’s decision to make? Why should he have been put in a position no one else had? You all keep missing that point!

    December 16th, 2005 at 4:52 pm (permalink)

  134. NeSheryl replied:

    Rogers, I knew you hadn’t gone anywhere, but regardless, he sill came out a victor with his project. It didn’t rain on his parade.

    December 16th, 2005 at 4:52 pm (permalink)

  135. D.G. replied:

    Rogers, and anyone who does a benefit for pediatric aids and raises $0 is an even bigger idiot!

    December 16th, 2005 at 4:52 pm (permalink)

  136. Rogers replied:

    NeSheryl - I don’t care if Randal graduated from Einstein’s University… if he doesn’t have common sense, he’s no use as an employee.

    December 16th, 2005 at 4:54 pm (permalink)

  137. Derrick replied:

    Anyone who hires Toral has Toral working for them with the way she bailed on her teamis an idiot of epic proportions.

    December 16th, 2005 at 4:55 pm (permalink)

  138. NeSheryl replied:

    Rogers- He got the job, which like past winners, he will be doing solo.

    December 16th, 2005 at 4:55 pm (permalink)

  139. Marcus replied:

    Man the claws seem to be out for Randall. It’s like he is now THE WORST PERSON IN THE WORLD, because he didn’t give some cute, SPUNDKY chick a job. Everyone knmows that once you get someone a job you’re responsible for them, and I wouldn’t want to be responsible for Rebecca constant memos about what a survivor she is because she got a blister playing golf, or what a champ she is for coming to work after a bad case of flatulence.

    December 16th, 2005 at 4:55 pm (permalink)

  140. Mary replied:

    Nevertheless if that was the normal competition she would have LOST because Randall had $11,000.00 and she had $0.00.

    How do you stand there and thank people for their support…..ah when they haven’t supported you?

    She did not collect one red cent at the Charity Event…..DUH?????

    December 16th, 2005 at 4:55 pm (permalink)

  141. kami replied:

    Rebecca’s integrity and loyalty have been beaten to death. But everyone keeps forgetting the few occassions she hit Randell below the belt. One was on the radio task when she chewed him out to Mr. Trump saying he was not creative. Second was in the final NYC boardroom when she said Randel over thinks and misses the big picture. Considering the fact Randel raised $11,000 and she raised NOTHING- he could have taken her to town on this one. But he acted like a true gentleman the ENTIRE process. He was the reason she had her ONLY win as PM. The reason she chose Toral on the final task was b/c she was so pathetic she needed Toral b/c she knew Toral would back her. Also when Trump asked her if she was better than Randel, she could not give a solid answer. Rebecca is smart, but she’s not all that. It would have been a slap in the face to so many people to hire her, especially the previous 2nd runners up.

    December 16th, 2005 at 4:56 pm (permalink)

  142. YouKnew replied:

    D.G. - Why didn’t they state what came in from Rebecca’s donation cards??? Because she blew Randal out of the water and that wouldn’t make for good tv?

    December 16th, 2005 at 4:56 pm (permalink)

  143. Derrick replied:

    Good call Marcus. And no one has answered this question: Randal was aked if Rebecca was tough enough to work for the Trump organization, and he said no. Wouldn’t he be a hypocrite for turning around and saying Trump should hire her?

    December 16th, 2005 at 4:57 pm (permalink)

  144. D.G. replied:

    Bravo Mary! She could have done something as simple as having a table at the exit where people could make a donation or make a pledge that could have been sent to them at a later date. She screwed up!!

    December 16th, 2005 at 4:57 pm (permalink)

  145. D.G. replied:

    YouKnew..Nice name but you really don’t know. Maybe nothing came in, you ever consider that?

    December 16th, 2005 at 4:59 pm (permalink)

  146. js replied:

    Boy - there are a lot of worked up people on this site! While I also believe Randall’s response could have been much more gracious (I definitely was calling him a few choice words immediately after the show), I put most of the blame on Trump and his way of stirring things up. Let’s remember that he’s doing this to make a buck and contoversy tends to get better ratings. Other than Bill, I haven’t seen any other previous winners being proclaimed as wonderful employees. This show has gotten more and more controversial and conivingly edited as the seasons have progressed and if you are really upset about the inaccurate and horrible portrayal of people, you’ll do as I am and not watch it in the future!

    December 16th, 2005 at 5:00 pm (permalink)

  147. sarah replied:

    we can debate who deserved to win until the end of time - you’re probably right, Randal deserved to win. Nevertheless, no one is a racist for complaining that he acted like a jerk at the finale - if a white man had done what randall did, we would all feel the same way. Honestly, Derrick and others - if “josh” had been up there with Rebecca, and he had been as successful as Randal and did the same thing Randal did, wouldn’t you be pissed and think he was a jerk?

    Especially since Randall was kissing Rebecca’s a&# the whole time saying how she was great and how he wanted it to be her in the finals with him, etc. He came across as a phony when he turned from Mr. Nice Guy to Mr. Jerk.

    December 16th, 2005 at 5:03 pm (permalink)

  148. Mike replied:

    96 Chad great post - agree with everything you said, except the last sentence. That’s way too harsh for a split second decision he had to make. It feel it should have been any easy choice (and I am sure Trump probably thought so also), but it obviously caught him off guard.

    99Derrick - Rebecca was not the best second place Apprentice candidate ever. The time was simply right to do something a little different in the world of Reality TV. Hiring both Bill and Kwame in the first Apprentice would not have had the same feel good, surpise ending impact that a double hire last night would have. Had the first Apprentice candidates been on last night’s show, Trump would have made a similar offer to Bill to hire Kwame.

    December 16th, 2005 at 5:03 pm (permalink)

  149. RealityTVFan replied:

    Derrick, my answer is this. Trump put him in that position to see how he would handle it. Trump did it intentionally. If is my opinion that he didn’t give Trump the answer he was looking for. In business you are put in hard positions all the time and your boss is looking for how you handle it.

    I like Randal and think he should have won, and he did. I just don’t understand why it would have diminished him to have her to.

    December 16th, 2005 at 5:03 pm (permalink)

  150. Derrick replied:

    Josh, IMHO, would’ve done the exact same thing as Randall. And rightfully so.

    December 16th, 2005 at 5:04 pm (permalink)

  151. Ellen Cole replied:

    If Rebecca had been chosen I would bet that she would have let Randall be hired also, she is NOT as self centered as he is. Trump should hire them both, he should decide not let Randall decide. Trump should be fair about it. Rebecca is the better person.

    December 16th, 2005 at 5:06 pm (permalink)

  152. NeSheryl replied:

    Realitytvfan- why was he put in the situation to begin with? no winners before were put on the spot like that before. He wasn’t even given the chance to celebrate properly. I mean, seconds after he won, he was put on the spot like that.

    December 16th, 2005 at 5:07 pm (permalink)

  153. Derrick replied:

    RealityTVFan, you still haven’t answered another question I had…Randall was asked if Rebecca was tough enough to work in the Trump organization. Randall said she wasn’t. Wouldn’t he be a hypocrite to turn around and say she should be hired? Everyone talks about integrity. His reputation is on the line if she’s hired and doesn’t prove to be tough enough as he said.

    As far as Randall kissing her a**, he said she was great and wanted her in the final. Doesn’t mean he’d hire her.

    December 16th, 2005 at 5:07 pm (permalink)

  154. Derrick replied:

    Rebecca wasn’t better than Josh. Rebecca wasn’t better than Alla. She shouldn’t have been in the final in the first place.

    December 16th, 2005 at 5:08 pm (permalink)

  155. Kara replied:

    Ellen Cole, do you know Randall personally, I hope so for you to call him selfish, you don’t know him. Rebecca did not win, obviously not the better person.

    December 16th, 2005 at 5:08 pm (permalink)

  156. Mike replied:

    122DG You’re right. However, it would have been a better moment coming from Randal for the following reasons.

    1. Randal was the winner and deserves to be “The Apprentice”.
    2. Tie games tend to be unsatisfying. There needs to be a winner.
    3. Randal and Rebecca were close when they worked together and had a lot of respect for each other. It was a nice gift for Trump to let Randal make the hire of his friend. This would have been more feel good than Trump doing it himself.

    December 16th, 2005 at 5:09 pm (permalink)

  157. Lori replied:

    Randall won because he EARNED it, and Rebecca should have been fired long ago when she stood behind Toral and alienated herself amongst all of her team mates (”Stand with anybody that stands right, stand with him while he is right and part with him when he goes wrong.” - Abraham Lincoln). That was a poor decision and showed her inability to be the next apprentice, I’m so sick of her being praised for her so-called loyalty, when she should have been condemned for her stupidity! Why would or should Randall share his success with a loser? And why do you concern yourselves with HIS decision?? That’s his perogative, SO BE IT! Now, let’s all go get a life and find something else to complain about…

    December 16th, 2005 at 5:09 pm (permalink)

  158. RealityTVFan replied:

    NeSheryl - Hey it is a new season with lots of new twists…four people getting fired at the same time etc.. What is wrong with changing up the show. Big deal if he was put on the spot, he could have done the right thing for the business and as a person and then kept on celebrating. Again, if he works for Trump he is going to be put on the spot all the time, he better get used to it.

    December 16th, 2005 at 5:10 pm (permalink)

  159. Laura replied:

    People keep calling Trump a racist for not having any African Americans in his organization, but did anyone notice that Randall’s whole office was African American except for the receptionist who appeared to be white. Should we say Randall is a racist,too?

    December 16th, 2005 at 5:11 pm (permalink)

  160. Derrick replied:

    Yeah, like that’s something you see everyday. Did you ever stop to think that maybe he works in a predominately black neighborhood? Or maybe just the board members are white? I’m sure the people in the meeting weren’t his only employees.

    December 16th, 2